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eguy
eguy
Did Dr. Nolan have a right to keep House in treatment?
Sep 22 2009, 2:30 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 22 2009, 2:30 PM EDT
Dr. Nolan refused to sign a recommendation to the board of medicine saying House could return to work. Did House need the counseling after rehab? Did Dr. Nolan have a right to keep him at the hospital? Do you find this valuable?    
tonyjones24
tonyjones24
1. RE: Did Dr. Nolan have a right to keep House in treatment?
Sep 22 2009, 3:06 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 22 2009, 3:06 PM EDT
"Dr. Nolan refused to sign a recommendation to the board of medicine saying House could return to work. Did House need the counseling after rehab? Did Dr. Nolan have a right to keep him at the hospital? "
No, not legally or morally. He took on House as a project and even used him to a degree. House was Dr. House mentally.
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TouchdownB
TouchdownB
2. RE: Did Dr. Nolan have a right to keep House in treatment?
Sep 22 2009, 3:34 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 22 2009, 3:34 PM EDT
Uh, yeah, he did, if he actually thought his problems were still relevant.

Pretty sure he did. =/
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birdblue24
birdblue24
3. RE: Did Dr. Nolan have a right to keep House in treatment?
Sep 22 2009, 4:53 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 22 2009, 4:53 PM EDT
"Dr. Nolan refused to sign a recommendation to the board of medicine saying House could return to work. Did House need the counseling after rehab? Did Dr. Nolan have a right to keep him at the hospital? "
He told him he could not keep him there, but that unless he felt he were better he would not write the letter to the medical board. He was free to leave, but not with his license recommendation.
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tonyjones24
tonyjones24
4. RE: Did Dr. Nolan have a right to keep House in treatment?
Sep 22 2009, 6:08 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 22 2009, 6:08 PM EDT
"Uh, yeah, he did, if he actually thought his problems were still relevant.

Pretty sure he did. =/"
You obviously don't understand when you admit yourself as a patient, you can check out whenever you please by law. It's called the patients bill of rights.
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TouchdownB
TouchdownB
5. RE: Did Dr. Nolan have a right to keep House in treatment?
Sep 22 2009, 7:52 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 22 2009, 7:52 PM EDT
"You obviously don't understand when you admit yourself as a patient, you can check out whenever you please by law. It's called the patients bill of rights."
Well, yeah, but Nolan gave him an ultimatum. I seriously doubt his intentions were malicious. Nolan sincerely thought House needed more help. He probably believes it's his duty as a doctor to help people. Well-adjusted doctors tend to have this complex that House lacks, even to the point where he won't bother with people having seizures right in front of him.

So yeah, House had every right to leave, and Nolan had every right to not write that letter.
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tonyjones24
tonyjones24
6. RE: Did Dr. Nolan have a right to keep House in treatment?
Sep 22 2009, 8:25 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 22 2009, 8:25 PM EDT
"Well, yeah, but Nolan gave him an ultimatum. I seriously doubt his intentions were malicious. Nolan sincerely thought House needed more help. He probably believes it's his duty as a doctor to help people. Well-adjusted doctors tend to have this complex that House lacks, even to the point where he won't bother with people having seizures right in front of him.

So yeah, House had every right to leave, and Nolan had every right to not write that letter."
I agree with the letter part but did Nolan actually help House or take him on as a project or to a more extent, use House? House was completely rational and sane, you can't keep someone just because they are a arse. :)
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KharemicKhaos
KharemicKhaos
7. RE: Did Dr. Nolan have a right to keep House in treatment?
Sep 23 2009, 1:42 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 23 2009, 1:42 AM EDT
"Dr. Nolan refused to sign a recommendation to the board of medicine saying House could return to work. Did House need the counseling after rehab? Did Dr. Nolan have a right to keep him at the hospital? "
I can understand it from the story's sake, a humbled House being being bullied by the same technique he uses with patients. Still I wonder about the ethic of forcing treatment especially with drugs to curb a belligerent patient who no longer was suffering a psychotic break. Where is the evidence and measurement for the doctor to do that? But I can see this working for the arc of this season's story line. Will this drugged induced happiness be as valid as the rush of reward when House figures out another "crazy"solution. I doubt House can continue on the anti depressants because his lifelong edge is at the core of his being. We have a great season to look forward to I think.
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birdblue24
birdblue24
8. RE: Did Dr. Nolan have a right to keep House in treatment?
Sep 23 2009, 11:33 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 23 2009, 11:33 AM EDT
"I agree with the letter part but did Nolan actually help House or take him on as a project or to a more extent, use House? House was completely rational and sane, you can't keep someone just because they are a arse. :)"
OMG Tony- Is there another male on here?
Having said that...Kharemick-House was using vicodin as an antidepressant so what they did was detox him from vicodin and put him an the proper medication.
From the look of the previews as well as the grin on his face, I don't think your going to end up with a happy go lucky House just not a drugged out House.
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tonyjones24
tonyjones24
9. RE: Did Dr. Nolan have a right to keep House in treatment?
Sep 23 2009, 1:06 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 23 2009, 1:06 PM EDT
"OMG Tony- Is there another male on here?
Having said that...Kharemick-House was using vicodin as an antidepressant so what they did was detox him from vicodin and put him an the proper medication.
From the look of the previews as well as the grin on his face, I don't think your going to end up with a happy go lucky House just not a drugged out House."
Vicodin was actually for pain but I'm sure House got gratisfaction from it. It was a good episode with a good but immoral story line. The story line was unrealistic but I guess that's why it's fiction...
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fab2552
fab2552
10. RE: Did Dr. Nolan have a right to keep House in treatment?
Sep 23 2009, 1:53 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 23 2009, 1:53 PM EDT
I think that it was a good idea for Dr.Nolan to keep House in the ward even after his detox from vicodin. Nolan thought that House needed help and the only way he could keep him at the ward for counceling was if he refused to sign the recommendation that could give House his medical license. I for one think that Nolans idea worked, House didnt lose his edge. He's still the same House that we all know and love, he's just in a better mood which isnt a bad thing. Do you find this valuable?    
DrDetroit
DrDetroit
11. RE: Did Dr. Nolan have a right to keep House in treatment?
Nov 6 2009, 2:12 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 6 2009, 2:40 PM EST
[This is in ref. to KharamicKhaos(sic?)'s post above--the quote didn't show somehow]

That was a GREAT point about House being bullied as he does to others, as a plot device. However, I agree 100% with your take that basically forcing House (who is emphatically NOT psychotic, nor depressed) take antidepressants, while keeping him there in exchange for the letter, was not only unethical, but counterproductive to any help House might have received. Yes, Nolan was using him, obviously relishing his power over another doctor, who is intelligent and strong-willed. House would, under other circumstances, have flattened the odious Nolan verbally, if not physically!

And yes, House on antidepressants would be very different, and, as the doctor himself would probably say, "boring"! This med twist was a sad reflection of the medical community's misguided overprescription of antidepressants. Blame it on the pharmaceutical industry!
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